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From: kriz@skat.usc.edu (KRIZ)
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Subject: Western folks consider posting your
addresses
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Western Folks,
Please consider posting your addresses now ...
we can provide a way
for information to get out ... if things get
really bad.
dennis
kriz@skat.usc.edu
Dennis Kriz
3175 S. Hoover #523
Los Angeles, CA 90007
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From: amug@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (User's Amiga Group AMUG)
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Subject: Latest CNN
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As
of 2:00 pm PDT, CNN was claiming that a "Soviet military official has
assumed control of the Baltic Republics",
tv
facilities in all three have been seized by Soviet troops, and Soviet warships
are blockading the harbor of Tallin.
Also,
CNN has claimed that Yeltsin was being
protected
by a number of tanks (assertion seemingly borne out by the snatches of speech
I've managed to catch and translate from CNN video), interior ministry and
army troops... Francois Mitterand has called on the coup leaders to guarantee
personal safety of Gorbachev...
Oleg
not
speaking for amug
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Amiga Users' Group at University of California, San Diego AMUG, 0077
Box #A6 9500 Gilman Drive La Jolla, CA 92093-0077 (mail)
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From: 3001crad@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Charles Frank Radley)
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Well
my only info comes from PBS radio.
There
seems to be a total media clampdown.
All
Yeltin's newspaper radio & TV have been closed down. Official Soviet TV
and radio are playing classical music. The above is according to PBS.
Those
stations which are not closed are being jammed.
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From:
werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
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In
<1991Aug19.161942.4626@uoft02.utoledo.edu> csupp@uoft02.utoledo.edu
writes:
>I've
been trying to get as much info as the next person and would like to know >if
anyone can post the press releases by TASS and other Soviet new agencies >regarding
the Gorbachev incident. If anyone
knows of another newgroup that has >any other Soviet information regarding
this point could you please post!
groups you want to subscribe to are:
misc.headlines
talk.politics.soviet
soc.culture.soviet
other groups that may contain related
info are:
alt.activism
(expect some activity) alt.conspiracy
(there are always those) soc.rights.human
(certainly worried about those) soc.culture.german
(worried folks) soc.culture.yugoslavian (some people might feel
encouraged) soc.culture.polish
(worried? who me?!? ;-)
and a few BITnet lists: BALTIC-L (sp?)
others?
--
--(werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu)--*OR*--(...!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!werner)--
--- Never hastily ascribe to malice, ignorance, or stupidity ---
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that which is adequately explained by inexperience or oversight. ---
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To
readers in the Soviet Union, I will also remail, repost or forward anything
that you wish to send me...
dennis
kriz@skat.usc.edu
Dennis
Kriz
3175
S. Hoover # 523
Los
Angeles, CA 90007
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From: root@sma2.uucp (Fred Brooks)
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Subject:
Coup "Can it happen here?"
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First
order of the new "old" world order.
1.
Turn in your weapons!
Wake-up
people, do we really think that only the military and police should
have
semi-auto and full-auto arms?
--
Defend
your 2nd amendment rights.
Fred
Brooks
Portland Oregon
Life
is too short to live in California
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From: kriz@skat.usc.edu (KRIZ)
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Subject: BALTICS/USSR -- Is BALT-L being sabotaged??
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Looking
at the BALT-L reports that I am receiving (and showing up on soc.rights.human)
there is a gap from BALT 1629 to 1670. What
happened
to the messages in between??
dennis
kriz@skat.usc.edu
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In
article <35056@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1111a@prism.gatech.EDU (Vincent Fox)
writes: >thing. Number 1 would be that we could have possibly averted all
this
>by
some shipments of wheat, some tractors, and some experts. But NOOOO...
No,
it could not be averted by economic bribes.
The coup seems to be by
a
group of high-placed government and military officials who were in fear of
losing power in the current wave of transition to a decentralized confederacy.
These are the very people who have been aacusing the West of trying to
take over and destabilize USSR through econiomic aid.
--
DISCLAMMER:
I speak for myself only, unless explicitly indicated otherwise. Oleg Kiselev
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From: stark@saturn.sdsu.edu (Brian D. Stark)
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Re: Western folks consider posting your addresses
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In
article <35158@usc.edu> kriz@skat.usc.edu (KRIZ) writes:
>
>Western
Folks,
>
>Please
consider posting your addresses now ... we can provide a way >for
information to get out ... if things get really bad.
>
O.K.
stark@saturn.sdsu.edu
Brian
D. Stark phone: (619)296-5229
work: (619)260-1100 5822 Lauretta St.
San Diego, CA 92110
brian
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Subject: Re. Time references
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EST = GMT -5
EDT = GMT -4
Current Moscow Time = GMT +3, but soon to be
GMT +2 (Sept. or Oct. 91) unless
re-decreed by the new powers that be.
David.
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From: zeleny@zariski.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny)
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Subject: Re: possibly the last email out of
moscow for a while
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In article <rdavis.682608009@connie.convex.com>
rdavis@convex.com (Ray Davis) writes:
>
From demos!hq.demos.su!avg@fuug.fi Mon Aug 19 05:01:08 1991
>
Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR
>
From: avg@hq.demos.su (Vadim Antonov)
>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 14:31:23 +0200 (MSD)
>
Subject: Re: just heard the news
>
>
Oh, do not say. I've seen these tanks with my own eyes. I hope
>
we'll be able to communicate during few next days.
>
>
Communists cannot rape the Mother Russia once again!
>
>
Vadim
Methinks the lady doth protest too much...
MZ
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From: HF.MMS@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark
Skubik)
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Subject: what else?
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Well....
I
guess that the Moscow Spring is over. Perhaps
in the next few days we shall be seeing Soviet tanks crushing the bodies of
the people. As I have said before
on this net, the Status quo soviets will hold on to power until the last
thread of civilized behavior is broken. These
guys are old enough to remember the deaths of millions upon millions in the
building of their wonderful utopia. Why should anyone be surprised that this
cornered old beast
is
striking out to defend itself?
Prayers
are in order for the people if that will help.
Much like Poland in '81, the eyes of the world are finely focused on
this tragedy. Perhaps the weight
of world opinion will hold down the carnage long enough for the people to
organize against the coup.
I
am kind of numb at the thought that the sociofascists will again torture the
peoples of the Soviet Union. Like
most of the rest of you, I had hoped that the revolution in the soviet union
would be peaceful, but that would have been asking too much.
Perhaps
there is a bright note here. I
expect that too much true politiczation has already occured in the soviet
union for this coup to reverse the process of democracy.
To many people have had their expectations raised.
Lets
everybody keep our hopes up and our powder dry, things may turn out alright
yet.
mark
there's
no accounting for my spelling and I aint got time to fix it nohow.
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If
there is anything at all that I can do to help keep accurate information
flowing into or out of the USSR please let me know.
I
can repost articles, send faxes, forward Western news reports
etc.
If necessary I could try and arrange to set up a private message
repository or UUCP link.
- Robert Stephens
Mountain View, CA
U.S.A.
e-mail:
roberts@sgi.com
telephone: (408) 247-0438 or
(415) 335-1647
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GORBY: UPDATES, PEACE STATEMENT
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Some
updates from CNN and other news sources can be found on PeaceNet in the
conference GLASNOST.NEWS under the topic "--->
GORBACHEV DEPOSED! <---"
/ included there is a sample news release for peace groups wanting to issue a
statement in response to this event.
--
Steve Freedkin (igc:sfreedkin) tel.
(805) 965-8583 Executive Director
Peace
Resource Center
Tue.-Fri. 10-3, Sat. 11-2
of Santa Barbara
Pacific time
13 W. Figueroa
St.
Santa Barbara,
CA 93101-3103
U.S.A.
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From: hfrederick@cdp.UUCP
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PeaceNet Mobilizes Soviet Coverage
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Inter
Press Service, the Third World's largest news agency, is
reporting
directly from Moscow and also has reports on the impact of the Soviet coup on
the Third World and other international process.
See "glasnost.news", a PeaceNet conference. It is possible to telnet directly into PeaceNet from the
Internet or to connect through SprintNet.
For information on how to connect to PeaceNet, send email to "support@igc.org"
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Re: News from inside the USSR?
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PeaceNet
and the APC nets have received direct reports from Leningrad
(see
PeaceNet conference northwest.news), but lines to our partner
network
GlasNet in Moscow seem to be cut.
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Decree of Russian President Eltsin
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/*
Written 6:49 pm
Aug 19, 1991 by NorthWest in cdp:northwest.news */
/*
---------- "Decree of Russian President Eltsin" ---------- */
P
R E S I D E N T
O F T H E R U S S I A N R
E P U B L I C
D E C
R E
E
In connection with actions by a group of persons, who call themselves
as the state committee on the extraordinary situation, I order:
1. Establishing the committee must be considered anticonstitutional,
and the actions by its organizers must be considered a revolution, which, at
the same time, is a state crime.
2.
All resolutions, which are issued by the name of so-
called
committee on the extraordinary situation, must be considered illegal and
having no use in the territory of the Russian republic. The lawful power in
the person of the President, the Supreme Soviet and the chairman at the
Ministers' Council, all state and local bodies of the power and administration
of the Russian republic is in force in the territory of the Russian republic.
3. Actions by officials, who execute resolutions by the mentioned
committee, are under the criminal code of the Russian republic and to be
prosecuted by the law.
The
present decree is put in force since the moment of
signing.
---
FD 1.99c
* Origin: North-West Information Agency/Leningrad - PeaceNet/Sweden
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RADIO MOSCOW ON THE AIR
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/*
Written 3:46 pm
Aug 19, 1991 by christic in cdp:glasnost.news */ /* ---------- "RADIO
MOSCOW ON THE AIR" ---------- */
I
am now listening to the first broadcast of Radio Moscow after the coup d'etat.
The "Committee on the State of Emergency" has clearly taken
over the service. The regular announcers are gone.
In their place are rather monotone voices reading the official
declarations and "decisions" of the committee without comment.
Most of the programming seems to consist of selections from classical
music and Russian folk music thrown together rather haphazardly.
It's
rather old news by now, but here are a few of the points made in the first
official "decision" (ukase) issued by the committee. All government bodies down to the local level are to obey the
committee's
orders.
Bodies which refuse to comply are disbanded.
All paramilitary units are to be dismantled.
All weapons, ammunition and explosives are to be turned in.
The committee will take over the mass media.
Andy
Lang
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INTERFAX NEWS
August 19, 1991, Monday
EXPRESS-NEWS, ISSUE NO 8
BORIS YELTSIN TAKES OVER ALL POWER IN RUSSIA
President Boris Yeltsin of the Russian federation issued a decree
whereby all executive bodies of the USSR, including the KGB, the interior and
defense ministries of the USSR, which function in the territory of the Russian
federation (RSFSR) are to be transferred under the direct authority of the
Russian president.
Mr Yeltsin ordered the Russian KGB, the interior ministry and Russia's
state defense committee to temporarily fulfil the functions of the said
government bodies of the USSR in the Russian territory.
All territorial and other organs of the KGB, the interior and defense
ministries in the territory of the RSFSR are from now on to execute decisions
by the Russian authorities.
"Officials
executing decisions by the unconstitutional
State
of emergency committee will be relieved of their duties and prosecuted
according to law", Mr Yeltsin's decree says.
RUSSIAN
COUNCIL OF MINSTERS DEEMS STATE OF EMERGENCY
ILLEGITIMATE
The Council of Ministers of the RSFSR called on executive bodies of the
Russian federation to abide strictly by the Russian legislation. In its
resolution of August 19 the Russian government appeals to the governments of
all the Union republics to join efforts with a view to safeguarding and
maintaining constitutional order all over the Soviet Union.
The
Russian government's appeal to the UN Security
Council
urges it to denounce the dismissal of a lawfully elected President of the USSR
by the State Committee for the state of emergency, not to recognize the
legitimacy of this body and its representatives abroad.
RUSSIAN PARLIAMENT'S EMERGENCY SESSION SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 21
The acting chairman of the Russian parliament, Mr Ruslan Khasbulatov,
signed a resolution by the Presidium of the legislature on the convocation of
an emergency session of the
Supreme Soviet.
The resolution states that the emergency session is to be opened at 11
a.m. on August 21. The session's agenda includes an item entitled "On the
political situation in the USSR in the wake of a coup de etat".
The Presidium's resolution deems the actions by the State Committee for
the state of emergency (SCSE) as a coup de etat. The execution of the SCSE's
decisions will be considered as "complicity in a conspiracy against the
state with all consequences thereof".
SITUATION IN CENTRAL MOSCOW
Traffic along Tverskaya street in Moscow has been blocked, Interfax's
correspondent reports from the centre of the Soviet capital. Paratroopers and
a column of 25 airborne armoured personnel carriers have been stationed
outside the building of the Moscow City Council. Adjacent streets are
reportedly crowded by military vehicles too.
On Manezhnaya square, People's Deputies of
various
legislatures were calling on the people to
march to the Russian parliament's building to avert what they called an
upcoming military action.
Meanwhile, the military lifted the cordoning
of the
Moscow City Council, the chief of the
mayoralty's administration, Mr Vassili Shakhnovski said, as a result of an
agreement between Moscow's acting mayor, Mr Yuri Luzhkov, and
lieutenant-general Zimin, the commander of the cordon.
Mr Shakhnovski said also negotiations were going on about military
units' actions in Moscow.
KUZBASS CALLS INDEFINITE POLITICAL STRIKE
The Council of Kuzbass' workers' committees called an indefinite
political strike in the territory of the Kemerovo region, the co-chairman of
the Workers' Union city committee, Mr Alexey Solovyev told IF.
In its statement issued at a session in
Prokopyevsk on
August 19, the Council called President
Gorbachev's removal illegal and said it did not recognize the "self-proclaimed"
State Committee for the state of emergency.
The Kuzbass' Council called on all military units in the territory of
Kuzbass not to obey decrees by the SCSE.
KEMEROVO REGION AUTHORITIES DO NOT RECOGNIZE
SCSE
The Presidium and the executive of Kemerovo's
regional
Council of People's Deputies said they did not
recognize the State Committee for the state of emergency considering it a body
which did not have legal grounds at the moment of its creation. The Presidium
denounced the events of August 19 as a coup attempt.
In their appeal to the people of Kuzbass they urged members of the
law-enforcement bodies, the KGB, servicemen and employees of the military
transport aviation not to obey decisions and decrees by the SCSE and prevent
it from setting up its subordinate bodies in the territory of the Kemerovo
region.
KYRGHYZSTAN'S INTERIOR MINISTRY LENDS SUPPORT
TO ASKAR AKAYEV
Kyrghyzstan's interior minister, Mr Felix Kulov, said his ministry's
position coincided fully with the appeal by President Askar Akayev.
The President of Kyrghyzstan called on the
republic's
population to remain calm and to maintain
respect to the
Constitution and laws of the USSR and the
Republic of Kyrghyzstan. He said also that he, being an elected president of
the republic, carried out his duties on the basis of the Declaration of
Kyrghyzstan's sovereignty.
The republic's interior minister said in his
statement
that no state of emergency would be declared
in Kyrghyzstan. It has been planned to use reinforced militia and OMON
patrols only to guard especially sensitive
sites.
CHELYABINSK AUTHORITIES DECIDE TO WAIT AND SEE
FOR THREE DAYS
The City Council in the city of Chelyabinsk and the city Communist
Party committee decided to take no actions for three days.
According to IF, the city looks quiet at first glance. There was a
rally at a refrigerator depot that passed a resolution supporting the
constitutional elected authorities and attacking the coup organizers. The
workers set up a committee for the constitutional defense of the working
masses.
KRAVCHUK ON DEVELOPMENTS IN THE COUNTRY
Chairman of the Ukrainian Supreme Soviet Leonid Kravchuk said in an
emergency appeal that the Ukrainian leadership upholds restraint and the need
for compliance with the constitution and laws and the defense of democracy.
According to him, the creation of extraconstitutional power structures is
inadmissible. According to Kravchuk, it will take time to understand what is
taking place. Assessments will be forthcoming at a later time; the presidium
of the Ukrainian Supreme Soviet is at work on them.
The head of the Ukrainian parliament declared
that the
republic is not under emergency rule and the
legitimate authorities do not plan to introduce it. They are in full control
of the situation and plan to stay within the law and observe the Ukrainian
constitution. He called for joint effort to prevent a stand-off and
confrontation and for the industry and offices to work at a normal tempo.
An emergency sitting of the RUKH popular movement in the Ukraine
declared the actions of the State Committee for the State of Emergency
unlawful and demanded that the Ukrainian Supreme Soviet condemn them
officially as unlawful.
MOLDOVA'S RESPONSE TO EMERGENCY RULE IN THE
USSR
First deputy chairman of the Moldova parliament Ion Khadyrke told in a
republican TV appearance that the creation of the State Committee and for the
State of Emergency and the decisions it passed were "unlawful."
He noted that the USSR President "has immunity and cannot be
relieved from responsibilities unless by decision of the USSR Congress of
People's Deputies."
First deputy chairman of the republican parliament emphasized that the
decisions of the State Committee for the State of Emergency "were not
legally valid in the republican territory" and called on the local
authorities to obey the parliament. He appealed to the nation "to keep
calm, avoid conflicts and violence to prevent the moving of troops" into
the republic.
He also supported the convocation of an
emergency
Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR.
Moldova's President Mirca Snegur interrupted his vacation and returned
to Kishinev. There are plans to hold a joint parliamentary sitting of
Moldova's parliament presidium and
government to adopt an official statement.
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INTERFAX NEWS
August 19, 1991
EXPRESS EDITION No 10
YANAYEV PRESS CONFERENCE (CONCLUSION)
Gennadiy Yanayev said that the USSR Supreme Soviet would meet on August
27 to confirm the plenipotentiary power held by the committee. He rebuffed an accusation that a coup d'etat had been staged,
saying that the committee's members were following constitutional procedures.
Yanayev said that a medical report on Mikhail Gorbachev's condition
would be issued at the appropriate time and he expressed the hope that "President
Gorbachev understands and will understand us, in the sense that at a time when
the country is in a difficult situation, we are obliged to take measures to
bring the country out of the crisis."
Yanayev also said that the State Committee for the State of Emergency
had readied a program of action to settle interregional problems, including
the Armenian-Azerbaidjani conflict.
In addition, Yanayev said that he had met with
the
leaders of the former Russian autonomous
republics and received support for the committee's determination to save the
country from chaos. He also
emphasized that all the decrees being issued, including those coming from the
Russian leadership, would be examined in the light of the state of emergency.
"The current actions of the leaders of the Russian Federation--and
I have in mind the building of barricades and the calls for civil disobedience--these
are dangerous," he said. "I
fear that armed provocations will be organized in order to lay all the blame
on our committee," he added.
Yanayev assured the audience that after the
situation had
been normalized "we will hold direct
presidential elections, in accordance with the constitution."
In answer to a question by the Interfax correspondent as to whether or
not Gorbachev knew that a state of emergency would be declared on August l9,
Yanayev answered that, in his opinion, Gorbachev should understand the
measures that the committee had introduced.
"He is a man who deserves the highest respect, and he has done a
great deal to bring us to the path of democratic reforms," he said.
Answering a question regarding the conditions under which force could
be used against the civilian population, the speakers at the press conference
said that they would do all they could to prevent excesses.
"The state of emergency is not connected with an attack on human
rights. We hope that we won't be
provoked into using force," Yanayev added.
YELTSIN APPEALS TO RUSSIA'S SOLDIERS AND
OFFICERS
In an appeal to the soldiers and officers of
the USSR's
Armed Forces, KGB and Ministry of Internal
Affairs, Russia's president, Boris Yeltsin, said that the USSR's vice
president and prime minister, the USSR's chairman of the KGB, and the USSR's
ministers of defense and internal affairs have "joined an
anti-constitutional body and, in doing so, have betrayed
the
state." He warned Russia's
soldiers and officers of the danger of "becoming a blind weapon of force
trampling on the constitution and the laws of the USSR."
The RSFSR's president announced that he had appointed Colonel-General K.
Kobets to the chairmanship of the RSFSR's Committee on Questions of Defense.
He also said that he had issued a decree obliging all territorial and
other organs of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the KGB and the Ministry of
Defense located on the territory of the RSFSR to immediately carry out all
orders given by the president of the RSFSR, the RSFSR's KGB, the RSFSR
Ministry of Internal Affairs and the RSFSR's State Committee on Questions of
Defense.
YELTSIN
TO SPEAK AT 20:00 FROM THE RSFSR HOUSE OF SOVIETS
The Information Office of the RSFSR Presidency announced that Boris
Yeltsin will make an address from the balcony of the RSFSR House of Soviets (Krasnopresnenskaya
Embankment, House 2) at 20:00 on August l9.
The announcement requests the public to come to the House of Soviets
from the direction of the Krasnopresnenskaya metro station.
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BALTFAX
August
19, 1991
20:15
IN THIS EDITION:
A
REPORT FROM ESTONIA
CENTRAL
TELEGRAPH AND TELEPHONE BUILDING CAPTURED IN KAUNAS THE LITHUANIAN GOVERNMENT
PASSED A RESOLUTION
TV
AND RADIO BUILDING OCCUPIED IN RIGA
MOVES
OF TROOPS IN lITHUANIA
* * *
A
REPORT FROM ESTONIA
An
orderly officer at the Estonian Home Defense Department told BF that troops
are moving toward Tallinn.
CENTRAL
TELEGRAPH AND TELEPHONE BUILDING CAPTURED IN KAUNAS
BF's
correspondent reports from Kaunas that the military have seized the central
telegraph and telephone building in that Lithuanian city.
THE
LITHUANIAN GOVERNMENT PASSED A RESOLUTION
The
Lithuanian government has passed a resolution on its activities under the
state of emergency announcing that it will operate "until it is barred
from performing its functions by force".
The resolution points out that if it happens, all ministries,
departments, state institutions and local selfgovernment bodies will suspend
their activities until the
legally
elected parliament and government take a special decision.
However, "health care institutions, food industry enterprises,
power stations and other vitally important installations should not stop
operating".
TV AND RADIO BUILDING OCCUPIED IN RIGA
As
BF learned at the Latvian Supreme Council, the military have occupied the
republican radio and television building in Riga. Troops entered the city in
the afternoon.
MOVES OF TROOPS IN lITHUANIA
As
BF learned at the Lithuanian Supreme Council, moves of troops and heavy
military equipment have been noticed throughout the republic. Two armored
carriers are standing at the center of Vilnius. "Scores of people"
have gathered near the Lithuanian parliament. In the port city of Klaipeda
"the military are patrolling all crossroads".
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August 19, 1991
EXPRESS EDITION No.11
SHEVARDNADZE
WARNS OF POSSIBLE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES OF THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE USSR IN
INTERNATIONAL ARENA
President of the Democratic Reform Movement and chairman of the Soviet
Foreign Policy Association, Eduard Shevardnadze said at a press-conference in
Moscow Monday that the developments in the country "were posing a threat
to democratic processes, peace and order not only in the USSR but also beyond
its borders." The former foreign minister described the situation that is
taking shape as "national tragedy."
Addressing Soviet and foreign journalists, he expressed the opinion
that things may escalate into a civil war and bloodshed. The only way out of
the predicament, according to Shevardnadze, was for "all democrats, all
reformers, all honest and upright people" to join forces. He expressed
the conviction that democratically-minded forces in the military "would
not turn against their people."
On behalf of the leadership of the Democratic Reform Movement he
demanded that Mikhail Gorbachev make an immediate television appearance to
assess the developments.
Asked about the possibility of outside help to
the
democratic movement, he said that "we
must tackle our practical problems ourselves. While appealing to progressive
mankind, we largely seek solidarity."
Dealing with the international consequences of the developments in the
USSR, Shevardnadze argued that the country's economic decline may worsen,
"in particular when grain purchases abroad become a problem." He
also warned that as far as the foreign policy agenda is concerned, "the
breakdown of the entire disarmament negotiating process" is a possibility.
Alexander Vladislavlev, a people's deputy of the USSR and
vice-president of the USSR League of Science and Industry, described the
action undertaken by the Emergency State
Committee as "absolutely unlawful" and declared that "politically
and economically, it is destined to failure."
"The question is: can this threat lead to
the
consolidation of the country's democratic
forces that have made but the very first steps during the six years (since
Gorbachev's took office) in order to counter this threat," said
Vladislavlev. "And what price will we have to pay for that?"
MOSCOW CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTS YELTSIN BUT
OPPOSES GENERAL STRIKE
*** Member of the Moscow City Council presidium Gaik Zuluyan told IF
that the Monday meeting of the Moscow Council deputies that was attended by
120 council members supported RSFSR President Boris Yeltsin's appeal "To
Russian Citizens" and declared the Emergency State Committee illegitimate.
The meeting did not support the call for a
general
strike.
Zuluyan also said that, according to the Moscow City Council, the
Moscow Region Council decided to disobey the Emergency State Committee and to
support the appeal "To Russian Citizens."
EMERGENCY STATE COMMITTEE VIOLATES SOVIET LAWS,
SAY LAWYERS
*** A group of members of the RSFSR
Constitutional
Compliance Committee discussed the
establishment of the Emergency State Committee and enumerated the Soviet laws
this act violates.
Their public statement says that neither the Soviet Constitution nor
the Soviet law defining the legal aspects of the state of emergency provides
for the establishment of an Emergency State Committee, let alone of a national
ruling body composed of a deputy chairman of the USSR Defense Council,
vice-president and prime-minister.
There were no natural catastrophes, large accidents, epidemics or
massive disturbances that, under the law on the legal regime of a state of
emergency, may warrant its introduction.
Nor the procedure for introducing the state of emergency has been
observed. In fact, a timetable and the area where a state of emergency is
declared must be specified, in accordance with the law. The official report
does not specify the area under the state of emergency.
The experts believe that the decisions on the
state of
emergency and the establishment of the
Emergency State Committee are legally invalid and must be declared null and
void by the USSR Supreme Soviet or the USSR Constitutional Compliance
Committee.
"IZVESTIA" WON'T BR PUBLISHED ON
MONDAY
*** The "Izvestia" staffers told IF that the employees of the
newspaper's publishing house refused to bow to the newspaper executives'
demand that the newspaper does not publish material on the statements of
Russian leaders, including the RSFSR president Boris Yeltsin's utterance at
the Monday morning press-conference.
The newspaper would not appear August 19, said the editorial board. It
will probably not appear tomorrow morning either unless the demand of the
publishing house staffers that the newspaper publish these materials is met.
According to the staffers, the newspaper may, however, be published at
military publishing houses.
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DIPLOMATIC
PANORAMA
August 19, 1991
The
USSR Foreign Ministry's Information Department told
DP
that the ministry was working at a normal tempo, and that the only change was
that there were "three times as many police at the entrance as on usual
days." DP has no other reports from the Foreign Ministry.
WHAT
IS THE PRICE WE WILL HAVE TO PAY?
President of the Democratic Reform Movement and chairman of the Soviet
Foreign Policy Association, Eduard Shevardnadze held a press conference today.
Earlier an appeal was disseminated on behalf of the movement's Political
Council: IF covered it in the afternoon.
***
According to Shevardnadze, the developments in the
country
are posing a threat "to democratic processes, peace and order not only in
the USSR but also beyond its borders." The former Soviet foreign minister
described the situation that is taking shape as "a national
tragedy," the possibility of which had been predicted by the movement's
leaders.
He told Soviet and foreign journalists that things might escalate into
a civil war or bloodshed. The only way out of the predicament, emphasized
Shevardnadze, was for "all democrats, all reformers, all honest and
upright people" to join forces. He expressed the conviction that the
democratic forces in the military "would not turn against own
people" and that the developments would find a corresponding response in
the other republics.
"We count on the solidarity of all progressive mankind since the
Soviet Union's continuing to be a democratic country is in the best interests
of all," said Shevardnadze. He demanded on behalf of the Democratic
Reform Movement that Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev make an appearance on
national TV to give an assessment of the developments, and, according to
Shevardnadze, Gorbachev must go on the air not later than tonight. He also
demanded the convocation of the USSR Supreme Soviet and of the USSR Congress
of People's Deputies in the coming days.
Shevardnadze expressed the opinion that the developments may push
various social groups to actions of protest, but it was his profound
conviction that the struggle should not assume violent forms. Asked about the
possibility of outside help to the democratic movement, he said that "we
have to address our practical problems ourselves. When appealing to
progressive mankind, we largely seek solidarity."
Addressing the consequences of the developments, Shevardnadze argued
that the country's economic decline may worsen, in particular when there will
be problems with grain purchases abroad; as far as the foreign agenda is
concerned, the disarmament negotiation process may break down.
A
number of People's Deputies also addressed the press conference.
Professor
Georgi Ryzhov, a member of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR:
***
Russia's leadership held a meeting this morning. It issued an appeal to the
peoples of Russia, signed by Yeltsin, Silaev and Khazbulatov, assessing the
events which had taken place and calling for joining forces and resisting that
unconstitutional coup. It was decided to convene an emergency session of the
Russian Supreme Soviet on August 21.
Later
came a decree by the President of Russia, Boris
Yeltsin,
declaring all government bodies in Russia transferred under the authority of
the Russian government to demonstrate that the so-called Soviet leadership
completely lacked legitimacy to give orders to those bodies.
The state of emergency act, according to the chairman of the Russian
legislation committee, Mr A. Shakhray, is unconstitutional because it may only
be declared in the republic's territory by consent of the republic itself or
by a decision of a two-thirds majority in the Soviet legislature.
I am a member of the Supreme Soviet's Presidium, and I have not been
informed until today that Lukyanov plans to convene the Presidium's session at
4 p.m. on August 21
Tanks
appeared around the building of the Russian
government
early in the morning, a nearby bridge has been crowded with tanks and armoured
personnel carriers.
Yeltsin
went out of the building and, mounting atop one
of
the tanks, delivered a brief speech and read an appeal by the Russian
government.
Russian
People's Deputy Voprontsov, a member of the Soviet Cabinet of Minsters:
***
No cabinet meetings were held yesterday or the day before yesterday. All
actions which have allegedly been taken on behalf of the Supreme Soviet's
Presidium or the Soviet government are unlawful. I have just received an
information that an emergency cabinet meeting will be held at 18 p.m.
Judging
by this sequence of events, it is not difficult
to
conclude that they are trying to confront the Union government with a fait
accompli.
This
morning, Mr Anatoly Urazhtsev, a Russian People's
Deputy
and the chairman of the "Shield" ("Shchit") association,
was detained near the Russian legislature's building.
People's
Deputy of the USSR Alexandr Vladislavlev, vicepresident of the Scientific
and Industrial Union of the USSR: ***The action which has been taken is
absolutely unlawful. What is more, it was taken at a time when political and
economic reforms began to gather momentum and this process was becoming more
and more irreversible.
I am quite sure that this country has no chances of turning back the
clock and reviving totalitarianism, for the economy just would not work in the
old way. It seems to me that all what has been done is an absolutely
irresponsible action which cannot accomplish anything positive, not to speak
of grave consequences which an immediate reaction to what's going on might
produce. Politically and economically, it is doomed to failure.
The
question is if the country's fledgeling democratic
forces
are able to join forces in the face of this threat to counter it. And what is
the price we will have to pay?
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